【海外の反応】ヤニすう6話、「山田も佐々木と同じくらい鈍かった」

山田は本当に体つきがいい

Yamada is SO stacked

いい肺だ

>>1

Nice lungs!

どうして彼女の目は、ああなっているんだ

>>1

Why is her eye doing that?

>喫煙で肺がんになるのが怖くなる
>いや、大丈夫だ
そうか、では引き続き吸い続けよう

>get scared smoking might give him lung cancer
>nah bro you're fine
oh ok then better just keep chugging those smokes then bro

漫画のこの話は丸ごと、たばこの害の啓発広告のように感じた。編集部に苦情でも来たのかもしれない

>>4

The whole chapter in the manga felt like a PSA about the risks of tobacco. Maybe the editorial department received some complaints and felt they needed to include something like this, who knows.

待て、山田は同じスーパーで8年も働いているのか。青春を無駄にしたな。佐々木にしがみつくのも無理はない

Wait Yamada worked 8 YEARS in the same supermarket? Holy f**k, way to waste your youth. No wonder she's clinging to Sasaki

8年ニートよりはましだ

>>6

Better than 8 years a NEET

そ、そうだな。実のところ、俺は8年ニートをやっている

>>7

T-True. As it happens I've actually been a NEET for 8 years hahaha.....

流れ弾に当たった

>>7

I've been shot by a stray.

俺が通うスーパーには、子どもの頃からずっと働いているレジ係が何人かいる

>>6

There are a couple of cashiers at the supermarket I go to who have been working there since I was a kid.

ニートでよかった。何十年もレジに立っていたら気が狂う

>>10

Thank god I'm a NEET and not working at a register for decades because I would lose my mind

地元のいちばん大きなスーパーに行くと、記憶にある限りずっと働いている女性が、みんなに挨拶してくれる

>>10

If I go to my hometown's biggest grocery store, one lady that has worked there since I remember will greet me and everyone (most store workers don't do passing greetings in general and I don't expect them to)

これは日本のスーパーだぞ

>>6

It's Supermarket, Japan

>レジ係
>家賃と煙草を賄い、友達と定期的に外食もできる
もっと大きな疑問は、どうして彼女はそこから動かないのか、だ

>>6

>Cashier
>Affords rent, cigarettes, and can regularly go out with friends for food
The bigger question is why she never just learned to drive.

友達とは誰だ。彼女が話しているのは同僚だけで、常に距離を取っている

>>14

What friends?
The only people we've seen her talking to are her coworkers and she keeps her distances all the time.

本当にこれが必要だったのか。煙草を通じて出会って親しくなるだけでは駄目で、彼が過去の救い主でなければ本物の愛ではないのか

Did we seriously need this? Like they couldn't just meet over smoking and bond, he had to be some super savior from her past or it isn't true love or what

恋愛喜劇の作者は、こういう型に手を出したくなるものだ。「二人は以前に会っていたが覚えていない」。ただ、今回は

>>16

Romcom authors are always tempted to indulge in these tropes. "They met before, but they don't remember ", but in this case I think was also the author wanting to make it so that it wasn't only Sasaki that was faceblind.

あれは若い頃の佐々木ということではないのか

>>16

Isn’t he supposed to be a younger Sakaki?

そうだ、37歳のおじさんだ

>>18

Yeah, 37 yo old man.

そもそも彼なのか。もし彼なら、今の臆病者とは違って、当時は肝が据わっていた

>>16

Is it even him? He actually had balls back then instead of the coward he is now if it is him

こういう人たちが、山田とレジ係が同一人物だと気づかなかった佐々木を馬鹿だと言うんだ

>>20

This is the people who will call Sasaki stupid because he didn't realize Yamada and the cashier is the same person.

俺は「佐々木化計画」を他の何軒かにも広げた。一人のレジ係に一途になるのは非現実的だと気づいたので、複数に釣り糸を垂らすべきだ

I've expanded my Sasakimaxxing operation to several other businesses. It struck me as unrealistic to imagine I can oneitis on the one cashier, I should have a few hooks in the water. I am now exclusively queueing for cute cashiers at the gas station, the grocery store, and surprisingly, the comic book store I go by. I am standing out a bit from the rest of the line I think, but no events yet.

レジ係に関心を示されたことは一度しかない。新人で、先輩について仕事を覚えている最中だった

>>22

I think I've only had one experience with a cashier showing interest. It was a new hire, who was shadowing a regular to learn the ropes, and she was giving me so much eye contact that it was almost uncomfortable, while smiling. Never saw her again though. I'd probably have more luck if I wasn't one of those types of customers that say nothing beyond "hello", "thanks", "have a good day".

新人のレジ係は、必要以上に目を合わせる傾向がある。君に関心があったわけではなく、ただ全体に緊張していたんだ

>>23

New cashiers tend to give more eye contacts than they need to. She wasn't interested in you, just nervous all around and you probably made it worse

>『ヤニすう』の放送後、全国のレジ係がニートに絡まれる
恐ろしい

>>22 >>23

>cashiers over the nation harassed by NEETs after YaniSuu airs
Terrifying

一度うまくいきかけたが、別のレジ係に邪魔されて二度と会えなかった。研修中か何かだったんだろう

>>22

I almost got this to work once but got cockblocked by another cashier and never saw her again. She must have been in training or something since I only saw her for a few weeks

なんて体つきだ

What a build

いいところが全部厚い

>>27

Thick in all the right places!

/a/ よ、ひどい客に対応したことはあるか。反撃も何もできない立場は本当につらい

Have you ever had to deal with a s****y customer, /a/? It really f*****g sucks being in that position completely unable to fight back or do anything. Some people truly merely exist to make others as miserable as them.

>反撃も何もできない
もっと自分を大切にしろ

>>29

>completely unable to fight back or do anything
respect yourself more

刑務所に行きたくない

>>30

I don't want to go to jail.

仕事を失いたくない

>>30

I don't want to lose my job.

20代の6年間バーテンダーをしていて、これは日常茶飯事だった。酒を出すのを断った客に脅されて、店長がタクシーを呼んで俺を家まで帰らせてくれたことが何度もある。歩いて帰らせるのは危ないと思ったんだろう

>>29

I was a bartender for 6 years in my 20s and dealt with this all the time. More than a few times my manager had to call a taxi to take me home because I'd been threatened by someone I'd cut off and he didn't feel comfortable making me walk home. [spoiler]Only lost my temper with one customer who really had it out for this young girl who worked with us, 20 years old, sweetest thing ever but just couldn't stand up for herself at all. He reached over the bar and grabbed her by the tie and I hooked him in the jaw. Big disciplinary over it.[/spoiler]

俺は聞いたし、気になっていた。話してくれてありがとう

>>33

I asked and I cared. Thanks for sharing.

俺が飲食店をやっていた頃は、従業員が不当な扱いを受けたら、店長に入店を断って退店を求める権限を与えていた

>>33

When I ran a resturaunt if anyone mistreated my staff I gave management permission to refuse them service and to ask them to leave. We had enough business that we would easily replace any table lost and I would prefer to serve customers that respect my staff and don't kill the morale of the team.

俺も山田とまったく同じ立場になったことがある。ただ、怒鳴っていたのはお婆さんだった

>>29

I've been in the same exact situation as Yamada, but the person yelling at me was a granny and the person who chewed her out was a lady in her 30s or 40s, I was 17.

Honestly, it was funny as s**t to me, it was f*****g neighborhood minimart so there was no reason for that old cunt to be mad at me at all, she wanted a cigarette brand the store didn't sold anymore, when I told her that she went on a schizo rant, I just looked at her baffled holding my laughter until the other woman stepped in.

God damn this was 12 years ago, I'm getting old.

大きなホテルの宴会部門にいて、毎日ひどい客に対応しているが、相手は個人ではなく企業だ

>>29

I'm in the meeting department of a huge hotel, I deal with bad customers everyday, but they are companies, not individuals, so they are more reasonable.

嫌な奴を前に自分の立場を守れない仕事なら、それはひどい仕事だ

>>32

If your job doesn't allow you to stand up for yourself in the face of assholes then it's a terrible job.

君は一日でも働いたことがあるのか

>>38

have you ever worked a single day in your life?

そうだ。君はああいう扱いが普通のように言っているが、普通ではない

>>39

Yes. You make it sound like that kind of mistreatment is normal. It is not

どんな仕事もひどい仕事だ

>>38

Any job is a terrible job.

どうしてノンアルコールビールを飲みたい人がいるのか、まったく理解できない

I could not for the life of me imagine why anyone would want to drink non-alcoholic beer.

断酒中のアルコール依存になれば分かる

>>42

you'll understand when you're a recovering alcoholic

俺は毎年四旬節に禁酒していて、友人や家族に誘われたときはノンアルコールビールを飲む

>>42

I give up alcohol for Lent each year and usually I'll drink non-alcoholic beer if I get invited out with friends or family. A bartender actually told me it's not unheard of to get requests for no-alcohol style spirits, particularly from women who are pregnant but haven't told anyone yet.

これはもう、ミニ話数に追いついたのか

is this s**t caught up to the mini episodes yet

そうだ。来週から完全に新しい内容だ

>>45

Yes. Next week is brand new content.

そうだ、来週は必ず顔を出せよ

>>45

yes we better see your ass next week

アニメしか見ていない俺には、全部新しい内容だ

>>45

???
It's all new content to me as an anime only

年の差、年の差と言うが、同じくらいの年の差で女性のほうが年上の作品はあるか。友人が知りたがっている

age gap this age gap that, there any anime with a similarly sized age gap but the woman is the older one? Asking for a friend

何年も年上の女性の恋愛漫画を探していたが、どこかで一覧をなくしてしまった

>>49

I spent years seeking out older-woman romance manga and I think I lost my list at some point. S**t.

俺の可愛い、退職したOLでニートの妻、森さん……

>>49

My cute retired OL NEET wife Mori...

『娘じゃなくて私が好きなの!?』だ

>>49

You Like Me, Not My Daughter?!

※ 『娘じゃなくて私が好きなの!?』

20歳差の関係が微妙だと気づくのに、6話も必要だったのか

so you needed 6 episodes to realize a relationship of people with a 20 years age gap is iffy?

釣りであってくれ

Please be bait.

つまり若い頃の佐々木は、実は田山をかばったわけではなく、怒鳴る客がうるさくて、仕事で参っていて、ただ早く済ませたかっただけなのか

So young Sasaki didn't actually defend Tayama... he was just annoyed hearing the angry customer, was stressed out about work, and just wanted to get through the checkout line faster...

彼は少し後で、いつも自分に良くしてくれるレジ係が狙われていることにも腹が立った、と言っている

>>55

He says a little later on that he was ALSO annoyed that the cashier who's always good to him was being targeted like that

あの男はたぶん、死ぬほど疲れていた

>>55

The man was probably dead tired.
I wonder if this post was LLM-generated. Probably not.
Depressing.

>この作品を見ていると煙草が吸いたくなる
>店に買いに行く
>煙草20本で50ドル
>回れ右して店を出る
何が起きているんだ

>show makes me want to smoke
>go to store to buy tabacco
>50 dollarydoos for 20 cigarettes
>turn 360 degrees and walk out the store

What is going on in this prison colony?

言われなくても分かる。スーパーにトマトを買いに行ったら、1個4ドルだった。確かに大きなトマトだったが

>>58

You're f*****g telling me? I went to supa market to buy tomatoes. One f*****g tomatoe was 4 dollars... granted it was a BIKKU tomatoe but still. F**k off that s**t should've been like 2 dollars tops. Everything is getting priced jacked. F*****g modern day marauders running the world today

代わりに、闇市場で3ドルの煙草を買えばいい

>>58

Just buy black market smokes for 3 bucks instead.

ドラッグストアで働いていた。薬物依存者の詐欺、1円で人を殺しかねない老人、そして本物の犯罪

>>29

I've used to work in a drug store. Dealing with druggies trying to scam you, old people who will murder you over a penny and actual crazy people. No cute girl encounters sadly, but middle aged guys buying Viagra is the most chill and pleasant group of customers we've had. Whole lot of Sasakis

この男が誰なのか、実に不思議だ。うーん

I WONDER WHO THIS GUY COULD BE. HMMM.

あれは木佐々さんだ

>>62

It's Kisasa-san.

これは、上の世代が若い世代に苛立つ場面だ。何の話をしているんだ

This is a scene of a millennial getting angry at a zoomer. What are you talking about?

だが、列に並んでいる男は若い世代ではない。若い世代は山田のほうだ

The guy in line isn't a zoomer though. Yamada is a zoomer

唯一の問題は退屈さか、出世の見込みの無さだろう。ただ、俺も自分の経歴なんてどうでもいい

The only issue I can see is boredom or the lack of carreer prospects, but then again I don't give a f**k about my career, as long as I earn enough to survive without wasting too much time or sanity working, that's good for me.

問題は、かろうじて生きていける程度の給料の仕事は、どれも心を殺す卑しい仕事だということだ

>>66

The problem is all the jobs that pay just barely enough to survive are also degrading s**t jobs that kill you inside

それは正しくない。ただ、俺が運が良かっただけかもしれない（ホテルで働いているアノンだ）

>>67

That's not true, but then again maybe I got lucky (i'm the anon who works in a hotel)

俺の勤め先はまともだ。長く働く自分も想像できる

>>67

My wagie job is fine, i could see myself working there for a long time.

何だ。急に自分の意見も言えないのか

What? Can't I speak my mind all of a sudden?

普通、人はそこまで熱くならない

>>70

Usually people aren't that worked up

それは適切な反応ではない。あれは論評だ

>>71

That's not an appropriate response; it's a commentary.

田山／山田はとても可愛くて綺麗だ。ただ、喫煙のせいで30代になる頃には見た目が急降下するのが残念だ

Tayama/Yamada is so cute and pretty. Too bad the smoking is going to make her looks take a nosedive by the time she hits her 30s.

まあ、乱暴なのはやめよう。脚だ

Well now, lets not get rude. Legs.

俺は彼女の目が好きだ。とても表情豊かだ

>>74

For me its her eyes
Really expressive

君は分かっている男だ

>>75

You are a man of taste

この作者は腰と太ももが好きなんだろう

>>74

the mangaka loves hips and thighs don't they

たいていの男は一生ひどい見た目で、変えようともせず、32歳で太って禿げている

Most men look like s**t all their life, never do anything to change it, are fat and bald at 32

だが今は、女性の話をしている

>>78

We're talking about women though

同じ点を広げているだけだ。体を鍛えて食事に気をつけ、努力と自制を続ける男女は、うまく年を取る

>>79

Sure, I'm extending the same point, women and men who stay fit and active,watch their diets, put in the work and the discipline age well and can even smoke a few without effect on their appearance, those who don't, are ugly, lazy sacks of s**t
And that's that really

では、高等教育を受けた人の大半は何をしていると思う

What do you think the majority of people with higher education do?

嫌いな仕事をしている。ただ、そのぶん給料は多い

>>81

Work jobs they hate.
Only they get more money for it.

>そのぶん給料は多い
何を学んだかによる。こちらでは、多くの大卒者が仕事を見つけられず低い職に就いている

>>82

>Only they get more money for it.
It depends on what they study.
Where I live, many uni graduates do low-level jobs because they can't find anything else and their degree is useless [spoiler]I am one of them[/spoiler]. And those are the lucky ones, the others are unemployed

子どもの頃、貧しくていつも俺に金を借りていた男がいたが、今は良い車に乗っている

>>82

I grew up with a guy who always asked me for money because he was poor when we were kids now he has a nice car and all of that and makes at least twice as much as i do although im well off as well and the last time we met we were at another guys place and we brought drinks and he was like hey do you know i make twice as much as you do and i was like yeah that's right now that you mentioned it and i still brought a bottle thrice the price of that sewage you gurgle. Figure it out

少なくとも、山田も佐々木と同じくらい鈍いと分かった

Well, at least now we know that Yamada is just as dense as Sasaki.

16歳から24歳になるまでの8年間は長い。その間に何人の客が来て去っていったか、想像できるか

8 years is a LONG time for a 16 year-old, when moving on to becoming a 24-year-old. Can you imagine how many customers have come and gone in those intervening years? She has a memory of the incident -- but not of the precise details of her "savior". I can imagine that today's Sasaki has evoked a sense of vague deja vu -- but I cannot fault her for not making a complete connection between her youthful memories and her present experience.

これには気持ちが割れる。高校生の憧れではなく、彼女がもう一度彼に惹かれたのは良い。ただ、彼が変わっていないとも思えない

Man I am so torn on that.
Its nice she basically fell again for him and this is not a highschool crush situation.
But also I doubt he changed and already liked her as a cashier beforehand.
Plus at what point did she then realize he always goes to the yamada register, did he take a break going to that shop?

あの店は途中で看板が変わって、彼はしばらく通わなくなっていた

The store got rebranded at some point and he'd stopped going there for a while

確か彼は、その8年間は仕事で別の街にいたのではなかったか。あの店に通っていたのは

Iirc didnt he move to a different city for work for that 8 years? Coulda sworn it's mentioned somewhere that he went to that supermarket when it was whatever the original branding was, then had to move cities, during which time the supermarket rebranded in the interim period before he moved back. Could be misremembering specifics, but there was def an extended time he didn't go to that store.

たぶん正しい。仕事の事情もあったが、主な理由は喫煙所が撤去されたことだ

Think you might be right. Think it was partially work related but mainly they removed the smoking area. Lol

山田が6年間、店のマスコットの着ぐるみに入っていた話も飛ばそう（皮肉）

We'll skip by Yamada's six years in a store mascot costume too /s

個人的には、これが彼女の「好みの型」の原点であって、同一人物でなければよかったと思う

Id personally just prefer if this was the set for her type, not a straight one-to-one

そう思っていた。彼女はもう二度と彼をサ・スロー・キと呼べない。（今後は彼女を「山田鈍」と呼ぶべきだ）

Hah. That's what I was thinking, she doesn't get to ever call him Sa Slow Ki ever again!
(Or she should henceforth be named Yamadense!)

※ Sa-slow-ki（佐々木＝鈍い）に対して、Yamadense（山田＋dense＝鈍い）と付けている

「山田鈍」はいいな

I like Yamadense

「山田馬鹿」のほうが元の言い方に近いが少しきつい。「山田鈍」がちょうどいい釣り合いだ

Yamadumb sounds like the original name but is slightly more insulting, Yamadense strikes a nice balance

そろそろ山田／田山の人違いの話から抜けると思っていたのに、まさか二重にしてくるとは

Here I was hoping we'd be moving out of this mistaken identity Yamada/Tayama stuff soon, little did I know they'd be doubling down on the mistaken identity.

同僚が結婚生活の話をするたび、珍しく普通で幸せな結婚が描かれているのに感心する

Every time the colleague brings up details about his marriage I'm just amazed that for once there's a portrayal of an actually normal and happy married couple in working age. Guess the world is finally healing from the boomer-era "ball and chain" mindset.

奥さんが、彼がブラック企業を生き延びるのを助けているんだ

His wife is helping him get through working at a black company!

しかも健康的な食べ物で体重を増やさせている。大した奥さんだ

Also getting him to gain weight on healthy food.
She is one hell of a wife!

二人で分担しているんだ。彼女がラーメンを食べ、彼はスープを多めにもらう

They'll split duties; she eats the ramen, he gets extra broth

世界はようやく、上の世代の「妻は足かせ」という考え方から癒えつつある。アメリカ以外でも、そこまで広まっていたのだろうか

the world is finally healing from the boomer-era "ball and chain" mindset.
Was it really that prevalent outside the US? I can think of a few happily married old couples in the Soviet media, at the very least.

俺の推測だが、この認識の変化は、社会的な孤立と孤独が広がった結果かもしれない

This is just speculation on my part but maybe the shift in perception is in part the result of growing social alienation and loneliness. In the boomer era it was a lot easier to socialize and form relationships but there was also far more social pressure to get married and such because of it. Whereas the generalized struggle nowadays has made being single more normalized and made actual relationships feel more like an achievement than something you just do regardless of feelings.

それと、当時は同じ社会的な圧力の理由で、離婚がずっと難しかった

Also, divorce was much harder to obtain back then, for mostly the same social pressure reasons

ついに来週から新しい回だ

new episodes finally start next week!

それを聞きに来た。つまりミニ話数を見た人には、来週から新しい内容ということか

I was coming here to ask that! So it seems like if we watched the mini episodes, new stuff starts next week?

第7話の前に、6話を見返す口実だ

An excuse to watch 6 episodes before 7?

主役の二人がどちらも相貌失認なのは、公平ではある。ところで、医者はいつだって禁煙を勧めるべきではないのか

I suppose it's only fair that both leads apparently have face blindness. Side note: Shouldn't your doctor ALWAYS tell you that you should quit smoking lol.

医者としてこの作品を見ているが、話のために健康上の助言は見ないことにしている

As a doctor watching this show, I've been ignoring the health benefits for the sake of the plot😂

山田の過去に出てきたああいう客は最悪だ。小売で働いていた頃、手の届く一番重い物を投げつけたくなった

God that sort of customer from Yamada’s past is the worst. Always wanted to throw them with the haviest item in arm’s reach when I worked at a register.

ああいう人がいるから、全員が半年は接客の仕事を経験するべきだと思う（電話の裏に隠れずに、対面で）

People like that are why I believe everyone should be required to work 6 months at a customer facing job (in person specifically no hiding behind a phone), if they had to be on the receiving end of that s**t I suspect a fair few people wouldn't dish it so often.

両方を数年ずつやった身として、全面的には反対しないが、電話も大して楽ではない。むしろ悪い面もある

Having done several years of both, while I don't wholly disagree, I can say that phone isn't much better. I'd even say it can be worse is some aspects. The distance between the customer and service worker that the phone grants can make people a lot less inclined to hold back.

父が対面で誰かに突っかかるのは見たことも聞いたこともないが、電話の窓口で個人情報を求められたときは別だ

I’ve never heard/seen my dad get short with anyone in person, but make him suffer through customer service on a phone and have them ask for personally identifying info to confirm his ID and he’ll get ornery real friggin fast.

>全員が半年は接客の仕事を経験するべきだ
完全に同意する。俺は山田と同じ年の頃からそうしていた

>> everyone should be required to work 6 months at a customer facing job
DTotally agree. I started doing this when I was Yamada's age (when SHE started) and did it for 3 years -- and then again for a couple of years in grad school. This was all many decades ago -- but I have always remember THAT side of interactions and try to act accordingly.

そうだ。何にでも難癖をつけてくる人たちだ。袋が有料なのと、宣伝の入っていない袋が無いことに文句を言う人がいた

Yeah... the fun ones who just nitpick anything...
Fun one was the one who moaned about having to pay for bags and not having any that "didn't advertise the store"

あの男は、佐々木の邪悪な分身のように感じた（もちろん背は低いが）。佐々木は、山田とのやり取りが心を落ち着けるから店に来る

The guy kind of felt like the evil double of Sasaki (shorter of course).
Sasaki comes into the store because he finds interacting with Yamada calming after a hard day at work.
The asshole customer clearly is coming in to vent and take his frustrations out on Yamada, because she is a captive audience and is "weaker" than him. You don't come in and yell at the same cashier multiple times unless you are secretly enjoying it.

小売の管理職をしているが、ああいう振る舞いをする人をすぐに追い出さないなど考えられない

I work in management in retail and I cannot imagine not immediately kicking someone behaving like that out. Like you just don't want people like that in your store at all.

それと、あの場面にアメリカと日本の文化の違いがはっきり出ていて可笑しい。あの場面では、他の客は全員

It's also kinda funny how the culture difference between America and Japan is obvious in that scene. In that scene, all the other customers are minding their business and Sasaki is the weird one for speaking out.
In America, nearly every time a customer pulls that crap on the minimum wage cashier, people tell them to shut the f**k up and get out of line. Seen is many-a-time, and even done so myself lmao

「よかった、肺がんじゃない。だから、この死の棒を吸い続けられる」で笑ってしまった

I got a chuckle out of "Whew! Thank God I don't have lung cancer, so I can keep smoking my death sticks!"