【海外の反応】本好きの下剋上1期2話、「名前はメインなの？マインなの？」

ヨーロッパの都市なんて、汚くてぎゅうぎゅう詰めのところがいくらでもあった。正直びっくりなのは、マインの家族が親戚（おじ・おば・祖父母・いとこ）と一緒に住んでないことだな。当時はそれが普通だったから。建物はみんな1〜2階建てだったってイメージも間違いで、ローマ人ですら帝政より前に5階建ての住居を建ててた。それにああいう建物の1階はだいたい店か工房だから、住まいは実質3〜4階ぶんしかないんだよ

Plenty of cities in Europe were gross, overpacked messes. Honestly the shocking thing is that her family doesn't live with their extended family (aunts, uncles, grandparents and cousins) since that was a norm back then. The idea that all buildings were 1 or 2 story is just not right since even the Romans had buildings pre-empire that were 5 stories tall and housed people. And the ground floor of most of those buildings are going to be storefronts or workshops so really there are only 3-4 flights for housing anyway.

中世の家は主に木造。教会とか防衛施設みたいな重要な建物は長持ちさせるために石で造ってた。
まさにそれ。主人公は自分のベッドまで持ってるんだぞ。犬のフンと脂まみれの葦の床で寝てるわけじゃない。ほぼ中流階級だよ

>>1

Medieval houses were mainly made out of wood. Important buildings like churches/defenses were made of stone, since they were the buildings meant to last.
Exactly, mc has her own freaking bed, not sleeping on a floor of reeds covered in dogshit and grease, she's practically middle class.

＞葦と土でできた自分専用のベッドがある
＞部屋に張ったロープにもたれて寝てない
おやおや、足を伸ばして寝られるとは結構なご身分ですこと

>>2

>having your own bed of reeds and dirt
>not sleeping against a rope tied across the room
well la dee da look at Mr Fancy with his stretched out legs

ちょうど汚物を捨てる時間に散歩に出て、町じゅうの汚物を頭から浴びるところを想像してみろよ。ああ、なんて素晴らしい暮らし

Imagine going for a walk at dumping time and being showered with the waste of the whole town. [spoiler]Ah what a wonderful life.[/spoiler]

臭いを想像してみ

>>4

Imagine the smell

ありがとな。
カタログを漁ってると、ときどき中世の汲み取り屋の気分が分かる気がするよ

Thanks anon.
Sifting through the catalog sometimes I like to think I know what it's like to be a gongfermour.

＞すごい髪の色
ふざけた字幕しやがって

>sugoi kami no iro
f*****g memesubs

＞すごい髪の色
＞見ろよこの虹色軍団
これの何が問題なんだ？

>>7

>amazing hair colors
>check this rainbow squad
what's the issue with this one?

皮肉っぽいトーンなんて無いのに、あるみたいに訳してるところ

>>8

it's implying a cynical tone where there isn't one

だから俺はGJM派なんだよ

>>7

This is why I prefer GJM

家族は娘じゃないって気づかないのかな。病弱な小さい女の子が急に読書に夢中になって、いろいろ発明し始めたら、さすがに何人かは怪しむだろ

Do they ever catch on that she's not their daughter. I mean a sickly little girl who all of a sudden has an intense interest in reading and invents stuff must raise a few eyebrows.

この作品ほんとに心温まるし落ち着く。毎週こういう楽しみがあって嬉しいわ

This show is so wholesome and comfy. I'm glad I have something like this to look forward to every week.

これって女主人公の異世界もの時代の幕開けか？乙女ゲーものもこの波に乗るのかな？

is this the start of the femMC isekai age? will otome ride the wave?

エンドカード可愛い

cute end card

＞オットーにキレてるお父さん
最高に笑える。エンドカードが的確すぎる

>>14

>dad mad at Otto
Top lulz. End card is on point

＞アパートを建てたり本を作ったりできるくらいの時間があったのに、果汁を水に入れて洗うことを誰も思いつかなかった
マインが本を手に入れるためにお金を稼ぐ手段が要るのは分かるけど、さすがにそれはアホすぎるだろ

>In the amount of time this society managed to build apartment buildings and books nobody had the thought of putting fruit juice in water to clean with
I can understand her needing a way to make money to get books but god damn that's really dumb

いや、昔の人は高価なパイナップルを腐ったあとも長いこと豪華な飾りとして置いてたからな

>>16

I mean people used to keep expensive pineapples as fancy ornaments long after they were rotten.

エジプト人ですら衛生観念はあったんだぞ。アパートがあって、魔法も存在して、水で体を洗ってさえいるくらい進んだ社会なのに、誰ひとりアボカドじゃないあの実の汁をうっかり水に落としたことすら無いってのは、手抜きの脚本にしか思えん

>>17

even the damn egyptians had hygiene. with how advanced this society seems with apartment buildings and with magic existing and them even using water to clean themselves It just seems like lazy writing to imply nobody ever even by accident dropped their not an avocado's juice in water.

植物油とハーブと「ひとつまみ」の塩。石けんって本当にそれだけでできるの？アルカリも要るんじゃないの？

Vegetable oil, herbs, and a 'pinch' of salt. Is that really all you need for soap? Shouldn't there be a base, too?

油って石けんの真逆じゃないの？

>>19

Isn't oil like opposite of soap?

このスレほんと面白い。先週は中世のアパートについて学んで、今週は石けんについて学んでる

These threads are neat. Last week I learned about medieval apartment buildings and this week I'm learning about soap.

半分史実っぽいアニメとかが大好きなんだよ。そういう話が出るたびに褒めるか怒るかできるから。
は？俺はしばらくルネサンス・フェアで売るために石けん作ってたぞ

>>21

I love semi-historical anime and other media just so I can either throw praise or rage when they talk about things.
What? I made soap for a while to sell at Renaissance faires.

＞ドクターストーンで石けんの作り方をまだ学んでない
お前100億％バカなのか？

>>21

>he didn't already learn about making soap from Doctah Stone
Are you a ten billion percent baka?

大人の女性が子どもに顔を赤らめるのはどうかと思う

An adult woman shouldn't blush towards a child.

ラノベだと、前世で恋愛経験がほとんど無かったことがほのめかされてるから、ちょっと「親しく」されただけでドキッとしちゃうんだろうな

>>24

In the light novel it's implied she's basically had no relationships before so any form of "closeness" is bound to make her a little fluttered.

子どもの脳のせいで性格がちょっと崩れたとかかもな。
それか単に中身が子どもっぽい大人だったか

>>24

It may be that the kid brain mangled her personality a bit or something.
Or maybe she was simply a womanchild.

＞Main
CRさん頼むよ

>Main
CR please

ラノベと漫画とアニメの翻訳者が表記をひとつに決めてくれたらいいのにって本気で思う。Myne、Main、Maine、Maïneまである。
俺はMyneでいく。そっちのほうが可愛いし

>>27

I really wish the translators for the LN, the manga and the anime just picked a typing and stuck with it. She is Myne, Main, Maine and even Maïne.
I'm sticking with Myne, it's seems cuter.

石板に書いた綴りからすると、アニメでは「Main」が正しいみたいだな。混乱を避けるならMaïnって字幕にすればよかったのに

>>28

Judging by how she spelled it on the slate, it's supposed to be Main in the anime. They could have subbed it as Maïn to avoid confusion.

石板に名前を書かせてたからだと思う。文字はアルファベットを少しいじった感じで、はっきり「MAIN」って書いてある

>>27

I think it's because of how they have her write her name on the slate. The characters seem to be modiphied alphabet and clearly say "MAIN"

これ/a/のこと言ってる？

Is she talking about /a/?

これだろ：
＞店で肉が買えるのに、なんでこの庶民どもは豚をさばいてんの？

>>31

Has to be:
>why are these plebs butchering pigs when you can just get meat from the store?

これ楽しんで見ても許される？

Am I allowed to enjoy watching this?

いいけど、漫画のほうがはるかに上だってことは認めろよ

>>33

Sure, but you must still admit that the manga is far superior.

マインは前世の頭のままなんだよな？つまり精神年齢は異世界転生する前に死んだときのままってことか。
＞5歳児に顔を赤らめる

So she still has her previous mind, right? So she's still mentally the age she died at before being isekai'd.
>blushing at a 5 year old

そう。中身は基本的に前とまったく同じだけど、元の女の子の記憶も使えるんだ

>>35

Yes, she's essentially exactly the same mentally as she was before, but she also has access to the former kid's memories

前世では22歳くらいだったのに、母親にやらされたこと以外まともな人生経験がまったく無いのが分かってくるよ。それに幼い体のせいで子どもっぽく振る舞っちゃうことも多いみたい。
あと麗乃はちょっと抜けてるところがあった

>>35

You'll find that despite having been around 22 in her previous life, she's had no real life experiences at all beyond what her mother forced her to do, and it also often appears her young childlike body causes herself to act childish.
Urano was also just kinda dumb.

まあ脳が大人より小さいんだから、そりゃ影響はあるわな

>>37

Well her brain is smaller than an adult's, so sure that has an effect.

「俺って賢いだろ」みたいな細かいツッコミで悪いけど、石板をもらう前に何か別の方法を思いつけなかったのか？
チョークと平らな面さえあれば済んだのに

Sorry for being a nitpicky "look how clever I am" asshole, but couldn't she figure something else before being given the board?
Literally all she needed is a piece of chalk and a flat surface.

マインはろくに家から出られないんだぞ。どこで何を手に入れるっていうんだよ

>>39

she can barely leave the building anon. Where is she supposed to get anything?

それな。
それに今は子どもなんだから、何にでも落書きする権利がある

>>39

This.
She is a kid now too, so she has the right to draw on everything.

書くことってマジで最高

I f*****g love writing

なんかヴィッキー2（Victoria II）やって国の識字率を上げたくなってきた

>>42

Now I want to play Vicky II and raise the literacy rate of a country

/a/ では史上最高の異世界ものって持ち上げられてたのに、ただの退屈なゴミじゃん
なんだよこれ？

/a/ was hyping this up as the best isekai ever and it's just boring trash
What the f**k>?

可愛いじゃん

>>44

It's cute

>/a/ が持ち上げてた
その時点で気づけよ。次は「今期のありがちな少年漫画アニメは、休止中の前期のやつよりずっと面白い」とか言い出すんだろ

>>44

>/a/ was hyping
That was your first clue. Next your going to tell me the next generic shonen this season is way better than the one last season that's on break.

ただの兵士が読み書きできるのって変じゃない？

It's weird that mere soldiers can read and write.

そうでもないよ。読み書きができれば多少は出世の道が開けたから（少しだけだけど）、覚えた兵士はそれなりにいた。それにマインの父親は門の詰め所を任されてるんだから、誰が誰なのか把握するのに読み書きは必要だろうし

>>47

Not really, a number of soldiers learned how since it was a good path to move up the ranks some (to a small extent at least). And Myne's father heads a guard post so he would need to know how to read and write so as to know who was who and such.

窓の弱った蝶番をマインがわざと壊して、父さんに丸ごと取り替えさせて、ただでさえ少ないお金をさらに使わせる場面がカットされてたな。あの子がとんでもないクソガキじゃないってことに、わざと設定を変えようとしてるのか？

So they skipped the part where Myne broke the weakened window hinges on purpose to force her dad to replace them completely and waste even more limited funds, are they trying to purposefully retcon her into not being such a massive little s**t?

寒かったからそうしたの？

>>49

Did that because she was cold?

心配すんな、本物の子どもはもっとひどいおバカだから

>>49

Don't worry, real kids are even worse of dumb little shits.

10代の頃は可愛いものが嫌いだったのに、20代になって惹かれるようになったのって科学的な説明あるの？
男版の「出産の適齢期」みたいなもんか？

Is there a scientific explanation for why I hated cute things in my teens and in my 20s Im drawn to it
is this the male version of the biological clock or something

10代の頃は、友達に見せて人気者になれるかどうかで物事を考えてたんだよ。今は、良いものは良いって分かるようになった。特に一人で見るならな

>>52

In teens you though about things you an show to your friends to become popular. Now you understand that great things are great especially if you watch them alone.

10代の頃は自信がなくて、友達を失わないようにグループの趣味から外れすぎないよう気をつけてたんだろ。で、今は人付き合いの階段から完全に降りてここに入り浸ってるから、どうでもよくなったってわけ

>>52

You were insecure as a teen and wanted to make sure you didn't stray too far from the interests of the group in order to keep those friends, and now it doesn't matter since you've abandoned the social ladder entirely to stay here instead.

死んだからって他人の体を乗っ取るってどういうこと？死んだら終わりだろ。死んだ脳に入り込んで何になるんだよ

How do you take over someone's body because they died? Death is death, what's the use of jumping into a dead brain?

なんか魂がどうとかで、なんか異世界の魔法がどうとかで、ごにょごにょ

>>55

Something something souls something something isekai magic mumble mumble

/a/ のみんな、今日は本読んだ？

Have you read a book today, /a/?

『世論の結晶化』は読む価値があるし、今の時代にめちゃくちゃ通じる内容だよ

>>57

Crystalizing public opinion is worth a read and extremely relevant today

ラノベも入る？

>>57

Does a LN count?

あんまりうまく説明されてないなと思ったのが、マインが知らないこの世界の言葉は麗乃にも使えないっていう設定。使おうとすると日本語で出てきちゃう。だから羊皮紙とかインクとか数字とか、お店の本とかについて「これ何？」って聞かなきゃいけないんだよ。この世界の語彙を覚えるためにね。大したことじゃないし、アニメに入れるのは難しかったんだろうから責める気はないけど、一応共有しとく

One thing I'm noticing that they aren't explaining too well is the concept that Urano can't use words in the world's language that Myne doesn't know. Whenever she tries, it comes out in Japanese instead. That's why she has to ask "what's this" for things like parchment, ink, numbers, and the book at the shop. It's so that she can gain this world's vocabulary. It's not a huge thing and I imagine it'd be kinda hard to put it in so I don't fault them for it, but I thought I'd share regardless.

説明しなかったのは不思議だね。マインがいろんなものに反応する場面のどこかで簡単に入れられたのに

It is strange that they didn't explain this, as they could easily do that in one of those segments that show her reacting to things.

原作小説でマインがそれに気づく場面は一部だけ入ってたけど、場面を半分に切って、気づくところを削っちゃってたんだよ。トゥーリが初めて様子を見に来るところ。マインが本とは何かを説明しようとするんだけど、マインの知らない単語が出るたびにトゥーリがどんどん混乱していって、最後に麗乃が「翻訳機能が壊れてる！」って叫ぶの

They included part of the scene where she finds out from the light novel, but they chopped the scene in half and removed the portion where she figures it out. It's the scene when Tooli first comes to check up on her. She tries to explain what a book is, but Tooli just gets more and more confused with each word that Myne doesn't know until Urano just screams that her translation feature's busted.

気になるんだけど、麗乃が脳に寄生するみたいにマインの体を乗っ取ったのが、見た目ほどひどい話じゃない理由の説明も抜けてたりする？だってどう見ても、5歳の女の子が死んで、転生した司書のための体と記憶の入れ物にされたって感じがするんだよね

I'm curious, is there also a missing explanation for why Urano essentially having taken over Myne's body as a brain-parasite isn't as messed up as it seems? Because it sure feels like a 5-year-old girl was killed and turned into a body/memory repository for a reincarnated librarian.

オットーさん ＞ お父さん

Otto-san > otou-san

かわいそうに、父さんヤキモチ焼いてる！

Poor Dad getting jealous!

なんで作中で父さんがオットーにやたら嫉妬してるのか今わかった。漫画を読んだときはこのダジャレに気づかなかったわ

I just figured why Dad is extra jealous of Otto in the story. When reading the manga I didn't get this pun.

ルッツに髪を褒められたときのマインの反応が完璧すぎる
このカットで姉妹とお母さんの髪がまだツヤツヤなのが見えるのも好き
石板ゲット！大したものじゃないけど、これでマインにも安く書けるものができた

Main's reaction when Lutz was complementing her hair is just perfect
I love how you can still see the girls and mom's hair all shiny in this shot.
Slate get! It's not much but at least Main now has something inexpensive to write on.

ラルフとトゥーリを眺めてドヤ顔してたあとだから、耳まで真っ赤になってるのを見られて大満足だった

Seeing her blushing to her ears was so satisfying after the smug look she had while observing Ralph and Turi.

漫画版の作画担当による素敵なエンドカード。もちろんマインは先のネタバレをこっそり覗こうとしてる
あとBD第1巻のジャケットイラストもすごく綺麗
中世（もしかしたらルネサンス初期）の世界で、それなりの制約があるってことがちゃんと考えられてるのが良い。たいていの異世界ものはそこを無視するか、魔法でごまかすからね。マインが知識を使って色々改善していくのは予想してたけど、最初の発明がシャンプーとは思わなかった。たまたま本で読んだ都合のいい知識じゃなくて、前世のお母さんにつながる個人的なものだったのも良かった

[Nice end illustration](https://i.imgur.com/2eYv3YX.png) by the artist of the manga version. Of course Main is trying to sneak a peek at spoilers ahead.

Also, the [blu-ray art for the first box is really pretty too.](https://twitter.com/anime_booklove/status/1181865447278305280)

I like that there a bit of thought has been put into this being a medieval (maybe early renaissance) world, with all its limitations. Something that most isekai ignore or wave around with magic. I was expecting Main to start improving things with her knowledge, but I wasn't expecting the first development to be shampoo. Though I liked that it was a more personal thing connected to her old mother, rather than just something she had conveniently read about.

マインってネタバレせずにはいられないんだな？
あとあのしおり、確か実際に売ってるやつだよ

Myne can't help but spoiler, can she?
Also I'm pretty sure that exact bookmark is for sale.

何をするにもマインが一生懸命なのが好き。目標を決めたら全力でそこに向かっていく。すごい根性だよ
ただ名前の表記が Myne じゃなくて Main になってるのはちょっと変な感じ

I like how eager Myne in everything she wants to do. She sets a goal, and she moves toward that goal with all her might. Amazing determination.
Kind of weird that her name was transliterated as Main, not as Myne.

>名前の表記が Myne じゃなくて Main になってるのはちょっと変な感じ
これは綴りが統一される前の時代の話だからね
マインの名前は、ありとあらゆる綴り方で書かれるってわけ
あのウィリアム・シェイクスピアですら、自分の名前をこれだけの書き方で綴ってた：
Willm Shakp
William Shaksper
Wm Shakspe
William Shakspere
Willm Shakspere
William Shakspeare
しかもこれは現存する6例だけ。たぶん「Shakespeare」「Shakespere」「Shakespear」「Shackspeare」とか、他にもいろんな綴りを使ってたはず
だからマインの名前も Main, Majn, Mayn, Maine, Majne, Mayne, Man, Min, Myn, Mjn, Mane, Mine, Myne, Mjne とか、通じるならなんでもアリ

>Kind of weird that her name was transliterated as Main, not as Myne.

This is before the standardisation of spelling.

Myne name is spelled, every which way you can possible spell it.

Even William Shakespeare spelt his name this many ways;
Willm Shakp
William Shaksper
Wm Shakspe
William Shakspere
Willm Shakspere
William Shakspeare

And those are just the six existing examples of how he spelled his name. It's likekly he also used, "Shakespeare", "Shakespere", "Shakespear", "Shackspeare", & various other spellings.

So Myne's name is spelled; Main, Majn, Mayn, Maine, Majne, Mayne, Man, Min, Myn, Mjn, Mane, Mine, Myne, Mjne, & whatever else works.

Main っていう綴りが「しっくりこない」のって、ほぼ英語だけなのが面白いよね。ドイツ語やスペイン語や日本語なら全然問題ない（文字がいつも同じ音に対応してる言語ならどれもそう）

I find it rather funny that it's mostly in engish that the spelling of Main doesn't "fit". In German, Spanish and Japanese is totally a non issue. (and any other language where the glyphs match always the same sound)

＞ただ名前の表記が Myne じゃなくて Main になってるのはちょっと変な感じ
でもオットーも石板にマインの名前を Main って書いてたし……Crunchyroll だけがそうしてるわけじゃないよ

Kind of weird that her name was transliterated as Main, not as Myne.
Well, Otto writes her name on the slate as Main too... so it's not just CR doing it.

日本語だと、ま が Ma、い が I、ん が N だからだと思う。マインが文字を声に出すところを聞くと「Ma I N」って言ってる。もちろん本人はカタカナで「マイン」って書いてるけどね

I think it's because in Japanese, ま is Ma い is I and ん is N. If you listen to her speak out the letters she says "Ma i N." She of course writes it in Katakana, マイン

つまりマインはゾンビってこと？

So you're saying she's a zombie.

すごく頭のいいゾンビかもね 😀

a very smart zombie perhaps 😀

そう、画面の外でたぶん脳みそをいっぱい食べてるからね

Yes, from all the brains she's probably eating off-screen.

いい回だった。この作品、早くも今期のお気に入りの一つになりつつある。マインのドタバタが楽しいし、キャラもいい

Great episode. This show is quickly shaping up to be one of my favourites of the season. Main shenanigans are fun and the cast is good too

自分の中ではどんどん頭ひとつ抜けてきてる。背景はちょっとシンプルだけど、キャラの作画はしっかりしてて独特の味がある。ギャグの入れ方も上手い。今回だと「布に包んでおけばよかった」のくだりが特に好き

It's rapidly breaking away from the pack for me. The backgrounds are a bit simple but the character art is well done and has it's own style. The humor is well executed. I especially liked the 'I should have wrapped it in a cloth' bit this episode.

わかる、もう大好き
本好き、サイコロ、慎重勇者、俺好きで、水曜が一週間で最高の日になりそう

Yeah i love it so much already Wednesday is gonna be the best day of the week with Honzuki,Saikoro,shinchou yuusha and Ore Suki

お願いやめて、「前回のあらすじ」やってる尺なんてないでしょ

Pleas no, you don't have time for "previously on".

14話あるから普通のアニメより時間に余裕はあるんだよ。たぶん第一部を全部やりたいんだろう

It is 14 episodes they have more time than your usually anime. Probably wanted to adapt all of part 1.

髪を下ろしたマイン、めっちゃ綺麗

Main with hair down is gorgeous.

ティモテ〜ティモテ〜

Timotei Timotei

リンク開く前からこなたの声が聞こえる

I can hear Konata before even clicking the link

シャンプー後の髪の描き方にはちょっとがっかりしたな。ラノベだとすごく綺麗だって書かれてたから想像が膨らみまくって、アニメへの期待もめちゃくちゃ上がってたんだけど、この「ツヤ」の表現は安っぽいDeviantArtのフィルターみたいに見える :/

I'm kinda disappointed at how they chose to portray her hair after using the shampoo, in the LN it was described as so beautiful that my imagination went so wild that it made my expectation of the visual adaptation went so high, but the "shiny" effect they use in this looks kinda like a cheap DeviantArt filter :/

このアニメの雰囲気、すごく好き。ファンタジーとか中世ものを貧しい庶民の目線で描くアニメってかなり珍しい

I'm loving the atmosphere of this anime. It's pretty rare to see an anime with a fantasy/medieval setting from the view point of people in poverty

＞中世ものを貧しい庶民の目線で
これでやっと分かったわ、なんでこの作品から「レ・ミゼラブル」のアニメ版っぽさをずっと感じてたのか。小さい女の子が中心なのも大きい（アニメのレ・ミゼはコゼットが主役で、半分くらいは幼い頃の話だった）

medieval setting from the view point of people in poverty
I think you finally made me realize why I kept getting serious Les Miserables anime adaptation vibes from this. The focus on a little girl (the anime Les Mis was focused on Cosette and she's young for like half the anime) helps too.

この作品が虹色の髪にツッコミを入れて、平均値の異世界ものがお決まりのトラックにツッコミを入れて、異世界ものもついに行き着くところまで来た感がある

Between this show pointing out rainbow colored hair and the average ability isekai pointing out the generic truck, I think we've reached peak isekai

しかも片や超人だらけの異世界もの、片や激弱主人公の異世界もの。第1話からして両極端すぎて笑う

plus we have a Isekai with super humans on one side and a ultra weak MC on the other. Talk about extremes for first episodes lol.

マインがぶっ叩くシーン、つなげてみた

Myne smash stitch

ミームになりそうな予感

Possible meme potential

正直それ狙ってやった

ngl that's why I did it lol

ありがとう、あんた最高！

Thank you, you beautiful person!

トゥーリが褒め言葉を素直に受け取れないのを笑ってたのに、いざいちばん年下の男の子に褒められたら自分が鼻血ダブルで撃沈してたのが最高

Loved how she was laughing that her sister can’t take a compliment but ends up with a double nose bleed when the youngest boy compliments her.

マインがメイン（Main）キャラってのも面白いよな

Also funny that Main is the main character

MALの点数が低いのがいまだに理解できない
京アニかSAOみたいな絵柄じゃないと何でも嫌う新参が低評価つけてるんだろう。昔ならこれは最高レベルの作画って言われてたよ。
ただ絵柄が違うだけ。このスタジオはイゼッタとか今風の絵柄が多いし、香月先生も明らかにこの絵柄を望んでたんだろうから、変える理由がない

Still don't understand the low score on MAL
Greenhorns down voting because they hate everything not either kyoani or SAO style. Man back in the day, this would have been considered superb animation.
It's just a different artstyle. Kazuki-sensei clearly wanted this style since this studio does a lot of modern style, like Izzetta, so why would they change.

関係あるか分からないけど、MALを使って1年近くになる中で、一部の作品の評価が妙に早く下がっていくのに気づいた。見る人が増えたり古くなったりすれば少しずつ下がるのは分かるし、新作がすぐ下がるのも似た理由だろうけど、2月にハルヒの憂鬱を見てたときは確か7.98くらいだったのが今は7.89。13年前の作品がこんなに下がるのは珍しい。
ジャンルや絵柄の好みで偏るのは分かるし、それは仕方ない。でも今までは平均点にもまあ納得してた（なんでその点なのか分かった）のに、今回は……6.8？いやいや

Don't know if it's related, but during my almost-a-year experience with MAL I noticed some shows dropping in ratings way faster than they should. Like, I understand that any show drops bit by bit because more people watch it and it gets older and new shows drop quickly for similar reasons but when I was watching Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya in February I guess it had I think 7,98 and now it has 7,89. It's unusual for a 13 years old show to drop this much.

I also realise of the genre and visual bias but it can't be helped. However up until now I was more or less ok with the average ratings (I understood why they were at this level) and now... 6,8? Come on

MALなんて使わなきゃいい、あれはダメだよ。botの対策があるのかすら知らないけど、たぶん無いと思う

Just don't use MAL, it's crap. I don't even know if they have any bot protections, but my guess is they don't.

>ただ絵柄が違うだけ。このスタジオはイゼッタとか今風の絵柄が多いし、香月先生も明らかにこの絵柄を望んでたんだろうから、変える理由がない
えっと、ソースは？そんなこと言ってるインタビューなんて見たことないけど。ラノベの絵は素晴らしいし、漫画もかなりいいのに

> It's just a different artstyle. Kazuki-sensei clearly wanted this style since this studio does a lot of modern style, like Izzetta, so why would they change.

Uh, source? I never saw any interview with him saying that, even more when the artstyle of the light novel is amazing and the manga is pretty good.

>明らかに
>だろうから
明らかに自分の解釈なんだからソースなんて要らないでしょ。いつから意見にファクトチェックが必要になったの？

> clearly

> since

I don't need to provide a source since my statement was obviously an interpretation. Since when is it ok to fact check opinions?

ちびマインがネタバレを口走るのが一番好きな定番ギャグだわ！前回は鶏で笑ったけど、豚ってとんでもなくデカいし、今回気絶したのは責められない。
ルッツに褒められて赤くなったマインがめちゃくちゃ可愛かった！妄想シーンも回を追うごとに面白くなってて、このアニメ化ほんとに好き

Chibi Maine blurting spoilers is the best running gag lol! And while I mocked her over the chickens last episode, considering how freaking big pigs are I don't blame her for fainting this time.
Her blushing when Lutz complimented her was so adorable! And her imagine spots are getting funner by the episode, I'm really loving this adaptation

あの「シャンプー」、シャンプーの作り方としては違う気がする……
追記：どうやら「クレンジングオイル」ってものを作る人がいて、女性は油だけで髪を洗ったりするらしい。不思議。ってことは実在するやり方なのか。
あと、みんな現実にはない虹色の髪の色をしてるって、作中ではっきりツッコんでたな。すごい

The "Shampoo" they made I don't think is how you make shampoo...
Edit: Apparently there's these things called "cleansing oils" that people make and women wash their hair in straight oil, weird. So this is real I guess.
So they're calling out directly that everyone has rainbow non-real hair colors. Wow.

そんなに変じゃないよ。毛穴はケラチンを守るために油を出してて、汚れた髪がベタつくのはそのせいだし、髪に汚れがくっつくのもその油。油は水に溶けないから水だけじゃ落ちないけど、お湯を使えば乳化して、乳化した油が髪の汚れた油を引き剥がしてくれるから汚れを洗い流せる。しかも石鹸みたいに油を全部取っちゃうわけじゃないから、コンディショナーも要らない！

It's not that strange, your hair follicles produce oil to protect the keratin, that's what gives dirty hair that greasy texture, it's also what dirt sticks to in your hair. Oil can't be washed out with just water as oil doesn't dissolve in water, by getting the water hot the oil emulsified and then they could wash the dirt out of their hair because the emulsified oil pulled the dirty oil off their hair. And because it doesn't strip away all the oil like soap would, they don't need to condition!.

ちゃんとした石鹸やシャンプーでも、そこまで難しくはないんだよ。水酸化カリウムのための灰と、煮詰める工程があればいい。ただもっと危ないし重労働だから、病弱な5歳児にやらせるようなことじゃない

For proper soap/shampoo it wouldn't be that much harder, it would need ash for potassium hydroxide and some boiling, but it's more dangerous and tiring, hardly the stuff you let a sickly 5 year old do.

マインは千空と会うべき

Myne/Main needs to meet up with Senku.

名前はメインなの？マインなの？

Is her name Main or Mine?

「マイン」で、発音は英語の "Mine" と同じ（聞けば分かる通り）。
でもローマ字表記は色々あった。Mine（Google翻訳）、Main、Maïn（漫画の最初の翻訳グループ）、Maine（Web版の最初の翻訳者が最初に使ってた）、Maïne（同じ翻訳者が後から使った）、そして Myne。
Myne が一番いい。漫画とラノベの公式ライセンス元（J-Novel Club）が使ってるし、J-Novel Club の翻訳者がどれにするか散々迷って（最初はWeb版の翻訳を見て Maine にしたけど、後から使われた Maïne がいいって声が出た）、原作者にメールで聞いたら、作者本人が Myne を選んだんだから

It's ``マイン`` and pronounced as the English word "Mine" (as you can hear).

But we have had many different romanisations of it: Mine (Google TL), Main, Maïn (used by first manga TL group), Maine (originally used by first WN translator), Maïne (later used by first WN translator), and Myne.

Myne is the best one because it's what the official license holder (JNC) of the manga/LN use and because the JNC translator was so in conflict about what to use (they started with Maine because they looked at the first few WN translations but then people wanted Maïne because that was used later) that they even emailed the original author and they themselves picked ``Myne``.

厳密には Maïn（ウムラウト付き）だろうね。日本語だと「マイン」で、そのまま転写すると "main"。作中の文字でも "main"。でも英語で読むなら "myne" が一番音が近い。
だからどっちも正しい。
日本人の作者がドイツ風の名前でキャラや設定を作って、その日本語化されたドイツ風の名前を英訳で英語にすると、こういうことになる

Technically it's probably Maïn (with the umlaut). In Japanese it's マイン, which directly transliterated is "main". In the "in-world" characters it's also "main". However you read it in English as "myne" which is the closest approximation of the sounds in English.
So they're both correct.
This is what happens when you have a Japanese author writing characters and lore using germanic names and then an English translation translating those Japanese-ification of Germanic names to English.

＞日本人の作者がドイツ風の名前でキャラや設定を作って、その日本語化されたドイツ風の名前を英訳で英語にすると、こういうことになる
さらにややこしいことに、たしか言葉遊びにもなってるんだよな

This is what happens when you have a Japanese author writing characters and lore using germanic names and then an English translation translating those Japanese-ification of Germanic names to English.
Then to make it even worse it's meant to be a word play I believe.

22歳で死んで今5歳。つまり27歳。簡単な算数

She died when 22 and is now 5. She is 27. Quick mats.

でも5歳の子に乗り移ったんであって、ゼロからやり直したわけじゃないから、まだ22歳でしょ

But she took over the five year old, not starting over again, so still 22

意識してやらないといけないのが面白い
おっと。何か圧搾機みたいなのを使うのかと思ってた……それが後で印刷機に応用されるとか
シャンプー帝国（一家を金持ちにする）の始まりだ！
安い塗料を発明しても大儲けできそう
カップリング厨が乗り込んできた！
おい、娘を盗るな！
逆さのM、逆さのA、変なI、N

Interesting that she has to consciously do this
Jej. I was expecting them to have some sort of press to do this with… that could then be adapted later on into a printing press
The shampoo empire (that will make the family rich) begins!
She could also make bank by inventing some cheap paint
'Shipper on board!
Hey, no daughter-stealing!
Uspide-down M, upside-down A, funky I, N

>安い塗料を発明しても大儲けできそう
あれは木の自然な色だよ、そう、緑なの。オレンジやピンクのもある

> She could also make bank by inventing some cheap paint

That's the natural color of the wood, yes it is green. Some are orange or pink.

トゥーリの顔、嬉しそうなワクワクした笑顔からピカチュウの驚き顔に変わる途中みたいになってる。
>シャンプー帝国（一家を金持ちにする）の始まりだ！
マインは髪が綺麗なのもラッキーだよね。シャンプーの効果を一番活かせるわけだから

Turi looks like she's in the middle of changing her happy and enthusiastic smile into a pikechuface.

> The shampoo empire (that will make the family rich) begins!

I think Main is also lucky that she has pretty hair, which means she makes the best use of the shampoo.

話がすごく好きだし、マインの本を作る夢を実現するまでを、アニメはゆっくりしたペースで描いてる。あのパピルスを作るのはしばらく先になりそう。冬の間にできるとは思えないし、特にその季節は体調を崩しやすいだろうから

I really like the story and the show is taking a slow pace approach into making Myne's dream of making a book a reality. It seems that we will have to wait for a while to her making that papyrus as I doubt that she will be able to do it in winter, especially knowing that she will more likely be sick during that season.
Today's end card.

空高く舞う蝶のように、2倍の高さまで飛べる。
それはさておき、「生活改善」のところみたいな、ちょっとしたファンタジー描写が大好き。まあ、ドクターストーンみたいに本を簡単には作れなくても、シャンプーは手始めとしては十分。あとマインが果物をギャラガーみたいにぶっ叩いてるところ、誰かGIFにしてくれないかな

Butterfly in the sky. I can fly twice as high.
Anyways I love the little fantasy bits like during the "life improvements" thing. Well anyways she may not be able to Dr. Stone herself up some books easily but shampoo on the other hand is as good a start as any. And I hope someone out there makes of gif of Main doin the Gallagher on that fruit.

第1話でがっつりハマって、今出てる英訳版ラノベに追いついた。J-Novel Club が持っててくれて本当に良かった、毎週読めるから。
ちびキャラになるマインの頭の中の大げさな描写とか、アニメ化の仕方もすごく好き。ただ冬支度の話がかなり飛ばされてるから、原作にすぐ飛び込んで本当に良かった。まあほとんどは大した話じゃないし、尺の都合で削るしかないんだけど、原作だと中世の貧しい家族が冬に備える感じがすごく伝わってきてたから、本作りの本題に入るためにそこが抜けちゃうのが心配。
現実寄りの異世界ものをもっと探したい。ゲームのシステムに頼ってるのが多すぎるから、こういうリアルな中世風ファンタジーをただ生き延びるだけの作品が出てくると、本当に新鮮

First episode hooked me hard. I've since caught up to the currently translated LN releases. Thank god its JNC who has it, I can read it every week.

Really loving how they're adapting this especially with all the chibi exaggerations of Myne's mind, though I'm really glad I dove right into the source since they've skipped a lot of winter prep. Granted most of it is kind of inconsequential and given time constraints the fat has to be trimmed, but the books really adds to the feeling of being a poor family prepping for winter in medieval times that I'm worried we might miss to get to the meat of making books.

Gotta find more Isekai based in reality. Too many of them lean on game mechanics so when one comes out like this thats just surviving a realistic middle ages fantasy its such a breath of fresh air

異世界ものってわけじゃない（しかもほぼ小説）けど、r/rational を覗いてみるといいかも

Not necessarily isekai (and mostly literature), but r/rational might be worth to check

Mother of Learning が更新されるたびに行ってるわ。あそこで人気の小説、ちゃんと探さないとな

I do head over there every time Mother of Learning gets updated, I really should find the popular novels on that sub

誓って言うけど、今まで見た中で一番ペースがゆっくりな作品。悪い意味じゃなくて、キャラや世界にじっくり浸れる。でも異世界ものでこのペースは予想してなかった、笑。
・"Myne" の訳を "Main" に変えた？盾の勇者のマインがみんなに嫌われてるから？
・チェンバロはどうも好きになれない、サントラであんまり使われないといいな
・宿主の体の記憶を検索できるのって、ちょっと変じゃない？
・8歳の子が家に残って5歳の子の面倒を見るの？ジョン・ムレイニーのネタを思い出す。犬の世話を馬に任せるようなもんだって
・おっ、トゥーリもシャンプーを使ったから髪がツヤツヤになってる！細かい
・まさか……20歳と5歳の恋愛をほのめかしてる？えーっと
・「オットーさん」が「お父さん」にすごく聞こえて、最初あの人を「パパ」って呼んでるのかと思った
・字幕で名前のつづりが変わったのは、あっちの言語での書き方に合わせたからかも
・日本語で書いてるのを見られたら変に思われない？落書きだと思われるだけかな
・そしてやっぱりパピルス作りを忘れてる。
この異世界転生の仕組み、よく考えると悪夢みたいだよ。麗乃の意識が入る前、マインは本物の生きた女の子だった。マインが入れ替わったわけじゃなくて、記憶はまだ残ってる。でも二人の心が体を「共有」してるような描写もない。じゃあマインは麗乃の潜在意識のどこかに閉じ込められて、自分がしてもいないことを体がするのを見ながら、声も出せずに出してくれって叫んでるの？それとも麗乃の心が入ったことで、マインの意識の部分は実質消されちゃったの？それに、あれだけ本と知識が好きな（たぶん哲学も好きな）麗乃が、いきなり他人の人生と体を乗っ取ったことに、なんで存在の危機も良心の呵責も感じてないんだろう？

This is the slowest paced show I've ever watched, I swear. Not necessarily a bad thing, it really allows you to take in the characters and world. But this is not the pacing I expected from an isekai, lol.

* Did they change the translation of "Myne" to "Main"? Is it because everyone hates Shield Hero's Myne?
* I've never been a fan of the harpsichord, I hope there isn't much more of it in the OST
* Kinda weird that she can just like search through her host body's memories?
* The 8-year old stays home and watches the 5-year old? Reminds me of a [John Mulaney bit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uD-akXggZA), it's like leaving a horse in charge of your dog.
* Hey, Turi's hair is [all shiny](https://i.imgur.com/Z7Mdif6.png) now too, since she got to use the shampoo! Nice touch.
* Are....are they teasing a romance between a 20-year-old and a 5-year-old? uhhhhhhhh
* "Otto-san" sounds an awful lot like "Otou-san," I thought she was calling that guy "Dad" at first.
* Oh looks like they might've changed the spelling of her name in the subtitles because of how it's written in that language.
* So are people gonna be weirded out if they see her writing in Japanese? Maybe they'll just think it's doodlings.
* Aaaaaand she forgot about making papyrus.

The mechanics of this isekai are basically nightmare fuel if you think about it. Myne was a real, living girl before Urano's consciousness got put into her. It's not like Myne was replaced, her memories are still there. But there's also no indication that, like, their minds are "sharing" the body either. So is Myne just trapped somewhere in Urano's subconscious, screaming silently to be let out and freed, watching as she her body does things she isn't doing? Or did putting Urano's mind into Myne's body effectively lobotomize Myne? Like the conscious part of her mind was basically killed? And why does someone so into books and knowledge (and presumably philosophy) like Urano have *no existential crisis or moral dilemma* over all of a sudden taking over another person's life and body?